So who is excited for the Jag XE?

"The Ghost of Oppo" (gohstoklasa)
02/23/2016 at 10:48 • Filed to: Jaguar

The XE should be showing up at dealerships in a few months(the manual won’t come until next year), what is Oppo’s opinion of the Jaguar’s new 3-er fighter?

Does anyone know if Dieselgate has affected Jaguar’s plans to offer a diesel stateside?

I kinda feel like the exhaust pipes are oddly close together not F-type close, but closer than what has become the norm

DISCUSSION (38)

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > The Ghost of Oppo
02/23/2016 at 10:52

Hmm... maybe I can keep my X-Type for one more year...

Jonathan Harper > The Ghost of Oppo
02/23/2016 at 10:54

Could have swore I saw one driving on Sunday. Should have taken a photo, I noticed it only bc of the different rear end.

Nibby > The Ghost of Oppo
02/23/2016 at 10:54

Kinja'd!!!

TheHondaBro > The Ghost of Oppo
02/23/2016 at 10:55

Memememe!

itschrome > The Ghost of Oppo
02/23/2016 at 10:56

Meh, too small. I like my cat’s big! I’ll keep dreaming of my XF thank you.

The Ghost of Oppo > Nibby
02/23/2016 at 10:59

That is more like it

Party-vi > The Ghost of Oppo
02/23/2016 at 11:00

Just as the CLA has been a great Mercedes product, and the A3 is a well-built Audi, and the BMW 3 Series Compact before them, I am 100% positive this less-expensive entry-level Jaguar will off the brand’s fabled fit and finish and refinement.

Thomas Donohue > The Ghost of Oppo
02/23/2016 at 11:02

If I didn’t see the front, I might think it WAS a Bimmer....but I do like it.

Kinja'd!!!

EL_ULY > The Ghost of Oppo
02/23/2016 at 11:02

look good enough. Me gusta!

The Ghost of Oppo > Party-vi
02/23/2016 at 11:05

You took the sentence the opposite way I thought it was going to go

The Ghost of Oppo > Thomas Donohue
02/23/2016 at 11:10

Even including the headlights, it looks like a BMW

djmt1 > The Ghost of Oppo
02/23/2016 at 11:17

It looks good but man is it a small car in person. Jags of recent times really need to get back on board with the whole space part of Grace, Pace & Space. Also I agree the exhausts need to be either touching each other or as far apart as possible.

AM3R shamefully returns > The Ghost of Oppo
02/23/2016 at 11:18

I'm very very excited to try one out.

Thomas Donohue > Nibby
02/23/2016 at 11:32

Moving the exhaust pipe location is the new ‘thing’.....

Kinja'd!!!

Van Man, rocks the Man Van > Party-vi
02/23/2016 at 11:38

I sat in one at the auto show and can confirm that you are 100% wrong.

Party-vi > Van Man, rocks the Man Van
02/23/2016 at 11:40

You must have an amazing ass to be able to tell all that from just warming the seat.

Van Man, rocks the Man Van > Party-vi
02/23/2016 at 11:42

I was talking about fit and finish. Much better than than the previous gen XF and surprisingly close to the Range Rover I sat in two minutes later.

Rico > The Ghost of Oppo
02/23/2016 at 11:44

I was seriously considering jumping into one of these but some first hand accounts I’ve read from average joes in Europe car shopping have said the car drives nice but the inside felt incredibly cheap (compared to the A4 and C Class) and they decided against it. I may still test drive it anyway.

Party-vi > Van Man, rocks the Man Van
02/23/2016 at 11:45

I’m wondering which will loose interior bits first - the Range Rover or the XE.

Steve in Manhattan > Thomas Donohue
02/23/2016 at 11:46

Beltline on Jag is better placed. I like it.

Rico > Party-vi
02/23/2016 at 11:48

I’ve already read that the car feels much cheaper on the inside than the cars it’s meant to compete with, namely the new A4 and the C Class. Jag may have screwed up here with that. At least the A3/CLA are a tier down in their respective brands.

Then Something New > The Ghost of Oppo
02/23/2016 at 11:54

Kinja'd!!!

We had one in our R&D office a few months ago. It’s a tightly packaged car that adds a pretty good amount of style to the vehicle class it’s selling into. The VW thing doesn’t have any impact on us selling diesels in the US.

We also have an FPace in the garage. These two cars are what is going to start bringing American buyers to the brand.

Van Man, rocks the Man Van > Party-vi
02/23/2016 at 11:57

Both felt exceptional so I'll say neither.

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > The Ghost of Oppo
02/23/2016 at 12:00

I’d have this over a 3-series

The Ghost of Oppo > Then Something New
02/23/2016 at 12:00

I knew legally it wouldn’t affect sales, but I wasn’t sure if would make product planners rethink their strategy.

Thomas Donohue > Steve in Manhattan
02/23/2016 at 12:04

Agreed. The shoulder line is less obtrusive as well. (edited since I can never remember which is which. Beltline higher than shoulder line....got it now...makes sense....)

Alex Zapata > Party-vi
02/23/2016 at 12:10

Having read this type of comment before on the A3 and the CLA, I just wonder and would really like to ask: What qualifies as good interior quality in your eyes, that makes the CLA and A3 so horrible? Does this feel stem from a bad ownership experience with either of these cars?

Also, what makes the CLA in general deserve this “subpar Mecedes” image that Americans seem to have of it?

Being from outside the US, we’ve had small Audis, BMWs and Mercs for quite a bit and we’re a lot more used to having premium small cars, which seems a bit foreign to Americans, but I’m genuinly curious.

Party-vi > Alex Zapata
02/23/2016 at 12:22

Good interior quality would be taking the same materials and layouts in their larger models and cramming them into these entry-level models, but instead we get more plastics and more economical design elements.

The CLA is a money grab by Mercedes for Honda and Toyota customers, which is made evident by the fact that the base price of the C-Class has jumped to $40,000 since the release of the CLA and next-gen C-Class. The A3 isn’t as bad because it looks like the rest of Audi’s product line, but is essentially an A4 with no usable back seat or trunk.

Premium small cars aren’t a foreign concept to us over here, the problem is every time we get one it’s a decontented piece of shit that was explicitly being sold here to get younger and less-moneyed asses into seats, the thought being that if a yuppie buys a 318ti, he or she will then buy a 328i as their next car. If we could just have gotten the 1 Series, A Class, and A1 from the start I’m sure they would be fine.

Jagvar > Then Something New
02/23/2016 at 12:28

Whoops, I got Kinja’d.

Jagvar > The Ghost of Oppo
02/23/2016 at 12:30

I was super excited, right up until the moment I actually sat in one. It felt really cheap and cramped inside...like being inside a plastic milk crate.

The Ghost of Oppo > Jagvar
02/23/2016 at 12:37

That is most unfortunate.

Steve in Manhattan > Thomas Donohue
02/23/2016 at 12:46

Defines beltline: http://www.complex.com/sports/2013/03…

Jagvar > The Ghost of Oppo
02/23/2016 at 12:51

It would be perfectly nice...if it were the new Nissan Sentra. But I expected more from the bespoke Jaguar brand.

Thomas Donohue > Steve in Manhattan
02/23/2016 at 12:53

Yes. Although my actual shoulders are still higher than my beltline.

Kinja'd!!!

Steve in Manhattan > Thomas Donohue
02/23/2016 at 12:54

Mine as well ...

The Ghost of Oppo > Jagvar
02/23/2016 at 13:16

...and boom goes the dynamite

wiffleballtony > The Ghost of Oppo
02/23/2016 at 14:03

Honestly, not at all excited. Show us the R model.

Alex Zapata > Party-vi
02/23/2016 at 16:43

The A1 and A Class/1 Series are not on the same class, the A1 goes against the Mini Hatch and the new ForFour, and if you think the A3 is useless and cheap interiors the A1 is more of the same.

Yes, I agree but to us it’s more the kind of car you buy when you live in a big city (with small streets and street parking) and don’t need the big space but want a premium car, which is a need that doesn’t exist in America.

Also there is no way you are going to get a $50,000 interior on a sub-$30,000 car, but if you compare an A3/CLA/A/1 Series interior to a comparable (for size) Japanese or American car, it’s on a completely different league, and that’s what it’s premium compared to.

Also they are much better built than almost any comparable car you can find in the market, in my experience at least, German cars in general have held up much better than US made and Japanese made cars in the past. (1 time C Class owner, several A4s a B-Class and currently a US-built ML)

There is this misconception that German cars are luxurious, they are not, they are just properly built using higher grade materials than most, that’s what you are paying for, durability, specially on smaller cars, the fact that the brand itself has become a status symbol doesn’t mean that they should change the way they are designed and made, in a BMW, Merc or Audi if you want luxury you pay out the ass for it, it’s ALWAYS been that way.